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English Voice Debate (3) – Independence From London?

NATIONAL LIBERALS advocate a return to small nations, environmentally sustainable communities and co-operative private enterprises. We also believe in true democracy, decentralisation, sound money, land reform and animal welfare. We are very much opposed to statism, imperialist wars and global corporations.


We promote these ideas via our various publications, the production of e-posters and by hosting debates. With this in mind, English Voice – the voice of the National Liberal Party in England – is interested in looking at ways in which we govern ourselves. In particular, how can we move away from a system where we are ruled by a professional political class and move towards a system of popular (and truly representative) rule?

To possibly answer this question, our attention was drawn towards an article - https://theswamp.media/how-to-stop-politicians-lying-guillotines-and-localismby Johnny Vedmore which appeared in The Swamp, which appears to be a online publication which ‘examines the crazy but true world of Politics.’


This article is written from a UK perspective – indeed, the author notes that every ‘UK region must take their power back from London’. However, we feel that it’s particularly applicable to England, as it’s the only nation in the UK that doesn’t have its own Parliament or Assembly.


English Voice invites its readers to carefully examine Mr. Vedmore’s article. Is autonomy and localism the way to go – if so, how do we ensure that those who inhabit the ‘Westminster bubble’ really do relinquish their powers? And even more importantly, how do we dismantle the Capitalist system which they serve?


Let us know what you think. Share your thoughts when this article is reproduced on either of our two Facebook sites – National Liberals https://www.facebook.com/groups/52739504313/ and National Liberal Party https://www.facebook.com/NationalLiberalParty/ It goes without saying that there are no official links between Johnny Vedmore, The Swamp, English Voice and the National Liberal Party.

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How to Stop Politicians Lying! Guillotines and Localism? Every UK region must take their power back from London.


Can Localism really bring power to the people? If so, how do we ensure that those who inhabit the ‘Westminster bubble’ really do relinquish their powers? And even more importantly, how do we dismantle the Capitalist system which they serve?

IF I WERE to describe to you all the feelings that I experience when I watch the UK Conservative party lie to parliament, I would say it is like a burning volcanic eruption inside my rib cage, moving upwards towards my epiglottis. Then, when the Tories are prevented from being called dishonest by the out of touch parliamentary rules, my head explodes and I scream uncontrollably for the return of the guillotine.

I don’t think I’m alone in being angered by how politicians of every party are allowed to tell lies in the House of Commons with impunity. Dishonesty is surely the enemy of a cohesive society, as are guillotines. And as it stands, our society is already officially split approximately 50/50 on all of the most important matters of state. We don’t need dishonesty or guillotines dividing us any further.

We need to have an honest system if we are going to create a better society, and the ability to call out dishonesty is essential if social stability and cultural enlightenment are on our agenda. But that isn’t the system we have. We have a system that rewards dishonesty, one that does not call out shady conduct within our official governmental bodies. Our society is fractured by constant deceitful behaviour.

The reason these officials continue to lie is because no one in political office is held legally responsible for their fraudulent activities. There is a simple way to solve this glaring absence of responsibility; we could make them legally accountable. But, I hear the mob cry, that won’t see any sort of justice for the many decades of lies which have already been told. So maybe what we really need is retroactive legal powers to pursue those who have benefited from lying in political office over the past 50 years. I’m not calling for previous political giants to be guillotined, rather I’m simply suggesting the we should see Tony Blair’s war crimes as a serious breach of office, or Iain Duncan Smith’s systematic abuse of disabled benefit claimants as unthinkable and illegal.


But if we were to remove dishonesty from politics, I truly believe that our governmental systems wouldn’t miraculously morph into some form of political utopia. Instead we would just confirm that humans lie a lot. The system isn’t necessarily responsible for the deceitful behaviour of the people who are part of it. The chaos of the whole is more likely to be a reflection of the character of its constituent pieces, the lying humans. Changing the system won’t stop bad people lying, laws and regulatory bodies won’t stop naughty people fibbing, and even the threat of the guillotine won’t stop the usual suspects from twisting the truth. A liar will lie whatever system we have, or punishment we dole out. There are no possible political formations that will change how human beings have acted since the dawn of time.


The solution? We should turn our backs on large soulless forms of governmental organisations and concentrate on a local compassionate networks of representation. The reason I believe this to be part of the solution is very simple. If you’re close to the people you govern, if you share your life with the humans that you represent, you will be much less likely to deceive them. Well to do folks who are lost inside the Westminster bubble are so detached from the realities of most of the people that they supposedly represent that it becomes almost impossible for them to act honestly. They have the pressures of party loyalty, lobbyists, and antiquated tradition to distract them from their primary objective, which is to represent their local constituents. A modern form of localism may be the best way to bring some sort of accountability and honesty into politics.


So firstly, every region of the United Kingdom must take their sovereignty back from London. This country is different wherever you go. You may find that the high streets of most British cities are almost carbon copies of each other. But when you scratch the surface of any city or town in the UK, you reveal an amazing tapestry of cultures with such startling variety. The Yam Yams of Wolverhampton are different from the YoYos of Birmingham. Scousers and Mancunians almost see themselves as different races, yet they’re barely 40 miles apart. Geordies, Taffy’s, Brizzle folk, Scotsmen, the Cornish are all dying to keep their peoples cultures alive and well. But instead of advancing our own cultures, we are being forced to morph into a version of the English capital, including adopting its crime, its ethics, and its globalistic vision for the future, a vision that could all but destroy local cultural diversity.


We all seem to desire independence from institutions that rule us from afar. Every region of this fantastic country needs to reclaim their independence from London. This isn’t about dividing our country; it’s about rediscovering our local cultures and celebrating our amazingly unique Island.

We are becoming what we’ve consumed for too many years. We have been on a London based diet culturally speaking, and it has left us obese and unsatisfied. We should go local.

• ALSO CHECK OUT

English Voice Debate (1) – Independence For England? http://nationalliberal.org/english-voice-debate-1-%e2%80%93-independence-for-england …


English Voice Debate (2) – Towards An English Parliament? http://nationalliberal.org/english-voice-debate-2-–-towards-an-english-parliament …


• Read English Voice – the voice of the National Liberal Party in England. To get hold of issues 1 and 2 simply e-mail natliberal@aol.com and ask for your FREE pdf copies!

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Harrow Voice Says Shop Local This Spring!

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Essex Voice Says Shop Local This Spring!

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Devon Voice Says Shop Local This Spring!

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For Self-Sufficiency, Sovereignty & Sustainability BUY BRITISH!

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Liberty & Nation Debate (1) – Can Permaculture Ensure Self-Determination & Food Sovereignty?
WELCOME to the first debate hosted by Liberty & Nation – the voice of the National Liberal Party.

Several months ago, 16-year-old Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg staged a solo protest outside the Swedish parliament. Since then, a growing number of schoolkids have been attending ‘Fridays for Future’ strikes. In fact, the climate action movement has seen around 70,000 children per week striking and marching in 270 cities around the world.

National Liberals are deeply interested in the environment. Indeed, as our artwork notes: ‘We believe that it’s the duty of man to live in harmony with nature and not destroy it. We need to live a more sustainable way of life – being less greedy, being less wasteful, using less natural resources and knowing where our food comes from. We feel that this will lead to a more rewarding, healthy, considerate and possibly ‘simpler’ life.’

National Liberals are also deeply interested in Self-Determination. But to achieve true Self-Determination we need to achieve Food Sovereignty. This means a move away from the global food system (which is dominated by corporations and market institutions) and move towards a system that is run by – and for – those who produce, distribute and consume food.
With all this in mind our attention was recently drawn to an article about Permaculture – https://greennews.ie/how-a-permaculture-farm-produces-more-per-hectare-without-pesticides-chemical-fertilizers-and-mechanization-than-a-farm-that-practices-intensive-farming/?fbclid=IwAR0uSmgr9IkgnpjGC_79hBHOS-Qq5iM02bAWo25wwnS_B4dKEYkx22VmVQg – which was written by Marie Daffe and published over two years ago in the Dublin-based Green News.

So what is Permaculture and can it ensure Self-Determination & Food Sovereignty? Bill Mollison (1928 – 2016) who is regarded as one of the founders of Permaculture, described it thus:

“Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted and thoughtful observation rather than protracted and thoughtless labor; and of looking at plants and animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single product system”

Liberty & Nation invites its readers to consider the article below and to examine if Permaculture could help us ahieve Self-Determination and Food Sovereignty. Readers are then invited to share their thoughts when this article is reproduced on either of our two Facebook sites – National Liberals https://www.facebook.com/groups/52739504313/ and National Liberal Party https://www.facebook.com/NationalLiberalParty/ It goes without saying that there are no official links between Marie Daffe, Green News, Liberty & Nation and the National Liberal Party.

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How permaculture can produce more per hectare – without pesticides, fertilizers and mechanization – than intensive farming


National Liberals believe in a more self-sufficient and rooted way of life - Small Is Beautiful! Of particular importance to us is Self-Determination and food sovereignty. We need to build the home market and get away from transporting food half way around the world. Permaculture may provide us a way to, ultimately, improve the health and wellbeing of our peoples – and thus the health and wellbeing of our nations.

THE IDEA of permaculture was conceptualized in the 70′s in Australia by the environmentalists Bill Mollison and David Holmgren. Its main goal is to create human installations modelled on natural ecosystems. Nature is the ultimate inspiration. The concept still can sound vague today, as it is usually seen as an agricultural technique only. It is actually more a conceptual and an holistic approach, based on three essential ethical principles.

The three ethical principles of Permaculture are:

• Earth care
• People care
• Fair share of resources and surplus

Permaculture puts emphasis on useful connections between all the elements of the garden, including human. It determines how and where they have to be placed to achieve maximum productivity. It thus gives a major role to the design of the garden, whose synergy is absolutely crucial. Practicing permaculture requires taking time. Being able to create the perfect arrangement is indeed first a matter of observation and reflexion. The result will be optimal if the whole system is well thought: interactions between elements will be maximized, so does the productivity, while the need for inputs and energy will also be reduced.

Permaculture is first of all a matter of common sense. Some people practicing it without even knowing it. Here are of the key features Perrine and Charles Hervé-Gruyer highlight in their book Permaculture: heal the Earth, feed people (in French only) (1). The couple are running the Bec Hellouin Farm (2), a pioneer farm of permaculture in Normandy, France. They have received a massive coverage after appearing in the famous ecological documentary Demain (Tomorrow) and the place is now visited by people from all over the world.

In nature, everything is connected
Ecosystems work cyclically
Each element benefits to the others and receives from them
The waste of one is the resource of the other
Everything is recycled
Each important function is filled by several elements, and each element potentially fulfils several functions
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts
Each ecosystem operates largely autonomously and contributes to the entire biosphere

Find out the practical application of these principles in the below video, shot at the Bec Hellouin Farm.


Quality of the soil is actually the main key of productivity. Having a good soil takes time but is the basis of everything. Permaculture makes it possible to create humus and thus to restore the soil, while traditional agriculture destroys it (4), contributing in particular to its erosion. In fact, traditional agriculture simply feed plants with chemical fertilizers but stopped feeding the soil a long time ago. Mechanization also contributes to the destruction of soils. Recreating fertile soil is possible, but only on small areas, because it requires precisely to work without mechanization.
The Hervé-Gruyer couple realized when they started their farm that their soil was actually quite bad to grow vegetables. They took a couple of years to conscientiously restore it and to make it fertile, thanks to the supply in large quantity of organic matter such as compost, manure and mulch. Today they grow more than 800 different kinds of fruits and vegetables at the farm.

Nicky Kyle also insists on the crucial role of soil in plant growth. She is co-founder and a director of the Organic Trust (5) and was one of the speakers at the launch of the People4Soil campaign (6), supported by the Environmental Pillar (7), December last. With forty years of experience in growing organic vegetables, she explained how exhausted soils can be restored. Even if she doesn’t claim to practice permaculture, she is clearly implementing its principles. First of all: never leaving the soil uncovered. Mulch and compost are the best allies when it comes to protect and nurture soil. Nicky Kyle also gives a great importance to the cropping plan. Crops rotations and cultures associations are designed to maximize productivity, thanks to the mutual benefits they bring to each other. Each plot contains multiple vegetables. So where the intensive agriculture grows only one kind of plant, permaculture grows three of four kinds at the same time.


Permaculture supporters are truly convinced that this kind of production is the future of agriculture, as it can fulfil a lot of purposes. As the Hervé-Gruyer explain in their book: “We produce much on a small area, while creating jobs, making the environment richer, soils more fertile and while stocking carbon and preserving biodiversity.” Knowing that we will soon be 10 billion human beings on the planet and that extensive agriculture is anything but sustainable, permaculture farming might be the solution. It is necessary to come back to a local production, in small farms like the Bec Hellouin or even in a context of urban agriculture, very trendy right now. To take back control on our food and not depend anymore on a globalized intensive agriculture is essential, for our health and the nature’s. But it would take a lot of people to go back to the countryside and become peasants as their ancestors were. A return to earth in short.

  1. https://www.actes-sud.fr/catalogue/ecologie-developpement-durable/permaculture
  2. http://www.fermedubec.com/en/
  3. https://www.demain-lefilm.com/en
  4. http://www.seeddaily.com/reports/Farmland_the_size_of_Italy_lost_each_year_UN_report_999.html
  5. http://organictrust.ie/
  6. http://greennews.ie/a-campaign-to-protect-irelands-soils-has-been-launched-people4soil/
  7. https://environmentalpillar.ie/
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